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Post by adonhiram on May 28, 2015 23:19:08 GMT -5
Hey you techies out there,
I crash pretty frequently on zoning and I wondered if the issue could be memory related :
I have 16 Go RAM and therefore didn't bother till now to have a pagefile.sys file which I always have kept to 0.
Do you think EQ might not like that and this would be a possible explanation for the crash on zoning ?
I am running a Win8 integral system and my EQ client is the hybrid HoT one.
I'll test right now with virtual memory set to 16 Go and see if it improves things.
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Post by atathus on May 29, 2015 3:14:28 GMT -5
Considering that original EQ only needed 512 MB RAM, and even the most recent EQ barely needs 4 GB RAM, I couldn't imagine this being the issue. However, if you had corrupt RAM, that could be a problem, but then you'd likely be having other problems.
I would suggest googling around for known EQ Zoning errors, especially for emulators. There's quite a few different ones, with different solutions.
Ones that I know off the top of my head:
Processor Affinity problems (try setting the everquest task in windows task manager to only run off a specific core)
Character ini problems (try deleting the ini file for the character this happens on, if it only happens to one character)
If this is a recent problem, I'd try copying all your character/account ini files, hotbar files, anything new you added, into a new folder and remove them from your eq install and see if the game works fine. Then, try adding the files back one by one and see which one causes a crash.
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Post by adonhiram on May 29, 2015 3:40:14 GMT -5
Thank you very much.
Yes, it always has been like this, not a new issue. Was the same on THF too. I'll try the processor idea you mentioned, thanks )
And it happens with three different characters from three different accounts. Each account has its own EQ Imperium folder, all on the C: SSD drive, I thought zoning would be quicker than on a regular hard drive.
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Post by adonhiram on May 29, 2015 3:53:14 GMT -5
Crashed again, here the message I got :  |
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Post by b33tlejuice on May 29, 2015 5:13:31 GMT -5
you got the newest visual c++ redist from microsoft?
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Post by adonhiram on May 29, 2015 5:44:20 GMT -5
I think so, updating regularly the system. But I am testing RoF2 client to see if I have less issues with that one. Thanks for answering bro :-)
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Post by b33tlejuice on May 29, 2015 6:49:51 GMT -5
RoF2 does generally seem to work smoother, but I know mine is missing some models and such (can probably fix this with a simple copy paste (not overwriting any files) from uf/hot into rof2 but haven't tried yet. Was googling this issue (as I get it every once in awhile, along with some super wierd graphical glitches from time to time) and it seems a LOT of things could be causing this issue, seeing as you have a good amount of ram that wouldn't be the issue. Also adon, even if you update regularly you might not have the version of vis c++ redist they recommend for it (can't find this info anywhere btw, been trying to figure that out so I could post something solid) but my guess would be the 2008 redist (can check if you have it in programs and features (win7-win8)). Just noticed I don't have the x64 version of the 2008 redist (even though i have a 64 bit system), have x64 and x86 of every other one so hopefully this fixes the glitches! Will update after I test this out a bit (you know warp around, log out back in) and see if I'm getting the same issues
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Post by jezril on May 29, 2015 7:12:53 GMT -5
I've found the RoF client to be more stable also, it is an extremely rare occurrence that I crash with it, but I use UF for the fact that I can warps hehah.
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Post by adonhiram on May 30, 2015 21:55:41 GMT -5
You guyz and your warpz shiz ;-)
I agree, I switched two days ago to RoF Steam client and now Adon does not crash anymore on zoning. Plus the new hotkeysystem and bag clickies CHANGED my life, no kidding. Only drawback is I need to keep the HoT folder when augmenting (playing Tetris as says Yunke...)
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Post by Genesis on May 31, 2015 5:11:53 GMT -5
Another question that I didn't see asked (didn't look to be honest, just went straight to the end...), are you using a 32 or 64 bit operating system?
32 bit operating systems are limited to 4 gig of addressable memory space, this generally works out to be closer to 3 gig of RAM once you add in all the other forms of memory. It wouldn't matter if you had a terabyte of RAM, the operating system couldn't utilize it.
It's just another thought, I've had instability issues with EQ for a long time so it may just be that, memory leaks and whatnot, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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Post by adonhiram on Jun 1, 2015 2:14:06 GMT -5
64 bits, I wouldn't be able to have 16 Go RAM otherwise ;-)
I confirm RoF2 is rock stable, never again did I crash on zoning with Adon or the Ork.
I had some minor issues with missing zone files as said Beetle (West Commons e.g.), which I resolved by copying/pasting from HoT folder.
The ability to click (and to hotkey) from bags really made things so much easier...
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Post by Genesis on Jun 2, 2015 2:23:42 GMT -5
It's quite possible to have 16 GB of RAM, it just won't be usable. No reason you can't fit the physical sticks on the motherboard.
I had to ask, many assume it's common knowledge but, the unfortunate truth is that I've seen just as many people that are totally unaware of the limitations of 32 bit operating systems.
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Post by adonhiram on Jun 2, 2015 2:57:14 GMT -5
Well I am not as techie as you are, but over the years I learned how to manage a computer. I was wondering if there are still 32bits computers sold nowadays, won't even small laptops now all be 64 bits ?
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Post by Genesis on Jun 2, 2015 4:58:17 GMT -5
32 bit operating systems are still common. I'm pretty sure even Windows 8 can be purchased in 32 bit.
The reason people often don't know is that there's nothing informing you of the limitation. There is no message that pops up on 32 bit operating systems telling you that you have more memory installed than the system can use. I didn't learn about it until I purchased a new PC and installed Windows 7 on it. The memory problems I was having on my old PC continued over to my new PC, and I didn't realise it was a problem with the operating system until I did some research. Then I installed a 64 bit operating system on both PC's and they both worked fine after that.
Edit: I also hope I didn't come across as condescending, I in no way meant to insult your intelligence. I've always found it safer to assume the people I'm talking to know nothing when trying to resolve an issue. If I assume you know nothing, then I have more questions to ask, and the more questions I ask, the more likely it is that we'll find the solution. If I assume people know a lot, then I won't ask many questions, and the more questions that remain unasked, the more likely it is that we'll miss the solution. It's nothing personal, I just find it to be the most efficient way to address problem resolution.
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Post by adonhiram on Jun 2, 2015 7:44:27 GMT -5
Edit: I also hope I didn't come across as condescending, I in no way meant to insult your intelligence. I've always found it safer to assume the people I'm talking to know nothing when trying to resolve an issue. If I assume you know nothing, then I have more questions to ask, and the more questions I ask, the more likely it is that we'll find the solution. If I assume people know a lot, then I won't ask many questions, and the more questions that remain unasked, the more likely it is that we'll miss the solution. It's nothing personal, I just find it to be the most efficient way to address problem resolution. Absolutely not, my dear Konba. Actually I think you are extremely precise, polite and nice when you answer questions :-) |
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