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Post by phroggy on Nov 4, 2021 21:18:30 GMT -5
Admins Extraordinaire: I agree with that GodoEQ freak... Do a complete wipe and re-install of your server and it's contents! Use new and updated code that will make your server-maintenance and other chores fun, instead of tiresome! We all know server admins do it because they love the code as much as as the worlds they build. So, make the world new again in as easy and future-proof a way as you can, and then let's ALL of us get back to normal life! Yay! lol this was put to bed last night .. thanks for not advocating for a wipe dead topic gg Whoops, guess that does sound pretty much like advocating... lol. I seem to have not typed about half the the message I'd planned on. Yay for pain meds. Sorry for the mis-quote. I DO hope there won't have to be a wipe, I really do, and I am sure our intrepid server admin's would rather that too. But brace yourselves; I've been here many many ties, and in the end the wipe was done, the screaming commenced, then settled down and we all got back to the CONTENT, which, after all, is why we're here, right? The rest are just shiny baubles that show how much we've ignored real life, LOL. Kinda like a tooth extraction...it really sucks, but feels better in the end. Right now i wish I could get a quick shoulder extraction... I'm gonna head back to the Percocet now...
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Post by scalz on Nov 5, 2021 5:34:38 GMT -5
I really do hope a server wipe is not going to happen, it may be the end of playing EQ for me. Like many others I have also put in a ridiculous amount of hours to get where I am on imperium; and the thought of doing it all again fills me with dread and I'm not even one of the long term players. I cant imagine how some of them feel.
Now I fully understand the idea of updating the code to bring the server to a better more modern standard, but if this comes as the cost of losing everything you could potentially alienate a significant amount of your player base.
Now as far as I'm aware the loginserver is running again, the attack has stopped and logging in is just as functional as it ever was.
Why not restore the server from a back up (assuming you have one) to how it was before the attack.
And then everyone would be able to play thus relieving the pressure on you to get the server back online and stopping you from making hasty, potentially rash decisions.
This leaves you then to work on the issues with the new code in your own time at your own leisure, and when it's ready and tested you can finally release It in the future no matter how long it takes.
Just my 2cp worth.
Thanks once again for your ongoing commitment Sturm and Bupu, it is appreciated.
Scalz
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Post by zefirus on Nov 5, 2021 18:59:35 GMT -5
I agree with stuff
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Post by xikmynded on Nov 9, 2021 0:06:17 GMT -5
Any update on this by chance? Looking forward to playing here again.
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Post by Bupu on Nov 9, 2021 12:01:57 GMT -5
We are going to be down a while yet, this time we will have the source changes making Imperium more easily upgradeable. We hope you will all join us on Imperium EQ the next adventure.
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Post by drdolittle on Nov 9, 2021 15:27:01 GMT -5
We are going to be down a while yet, this time we will have the source changes making Imperium more easily upgradeable. We hope you will all join us on Imperium EQ the next adventure. Cute,,,,, Think you could be a little less vague and stop avoiding the question your members are actually concerned with and keep asking? Are you wiping the characters or not? I feel you are being very disingenuous while trying to string your members along with ignorance and uncertainty. How about showing your users some respect by giving them a clear and concise statement of your intent so we can make our choices now to continue to support you, move on, or at least be prepared for what's available should we continue to stay/care? It's going to be very insulting, and I'm sure you'll lose all your members, if you continue to string us along without a clear statement of your intentions while we continue to wait only to find out we were waiting for nothing.
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Post by xikmynded on Nov 9, 2021 16:52:49 GMT -5
Just a thought/suggestion, why not make it so we can change our host file to connect directly to the imperium login server and not go through eqemu login? That way we could all continue to play, and Bupu and Sturm could work on making it work through eqemu login again?
Just my 2cp
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Post by Bupu on Nov 9, 2021 17:17:46 GMT -5
Just a thought/suggestion, why not make it so we can change our host file to connect directly to the imperium login server and not go through eqemu login? That way we could all continue to play, and Bupu and Sturm could work on making it work through eqemu login again? Just my 2cp We can not get the old to connect to the eqemu login at all, so we are not trying to anymore. We are moving on and rebalancing the server to work with the new adding some QoL changes etc. Where we end up we do not know.
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Post by Bupu on Nov 9, 2021 17:32:25 GMT -5
We are going to be down a while yet, this time we will have the source changes making Imperium more easily upgradeable. We hope you will all join us on Imperium EQ the next adventure. Cute,,,,, Think you could be a little less vague and stop avoiding the question your members are actually concerned with and keep asking? Are you wiping the characters or not? I feel you are being very disingenuous while trying to string your members along with ignorance and uncertainty. How about showing your users some respect by giving them a clear and concise statement of your intent so we can make our choices now to continue to support you, move on, or at least be prepared for what's available should we continue to stay/care? It's going to be very insulting, and I'm sure you'll lose all your members, if you continue to string us along without a clear statement of your intentions while we continue to wait only to find out we were waiting for nothing. The answer is "we don't know", we have not decided that will be the final thing we do. Right now we have other concerns like fixing the entire database and rebalancing everything one thing at a time to make sure it is right . If you do not like that answer "do not come back", right now I am stressed, my plate is full and answering the same god damn question every day makes me want to throw in the towel and never bring Imperium up again. Yes we have made progress but we are not there yet and have no definitive answer either way on a wipe. My answer there was meant as a check back later nothing more. You all need to stop reading into shit. You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done? No to both. If and when we decide which way to go we will let everyone know. Until that time it is a option that we can and will choose if we feel it is needed.
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Post by xikmynded on Nov 9, 2021 17:41:21 GMT -5
Just a thought/suggestion, why not make it so we can change our host file to connect directly to the imperium login server and not go through eqemu login? That way we could all continue to play, and Bupu and Sturm could work on making it work through eqemu login again? Just my 2cp We can not get the old to connect to the eqemu login at all, so we are not trying to anymore. We are moving on and rebalancing the server to work with the new adding some QoL changes etc. Where we end up we do not know. It takes a lot of work I know, but I have faith that you guys will get it up and running again. Offer still stands 🙂 let me know
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Post by drdolittle on Nov 9, 2021 18:19:23 GMT -5
The answer is "we don't know", we have not decided that will be the final thing we do. Right now we have other concerns like fixing the entire database and rebalancing everything one thing at a time to make sure it is right . If you do not like that answer "do not come back", right now I am stressed, my plate is full and answering the same god damn question every day makes me want to throw in the towel and never bring Imperium up again. Yes we have made progress but we are not there yet and have no definitive answer either way on a wipe. My answer there was meant as a check back later nothing more. You all need to stop reading into shit. You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done? No to both. If and when we decide which way to go we will let everyone know. Until that time it is a option that we can and will choose if we feel it is needed. That's LITERALLY what I was asking for. Your original statement addressed and answered nothing and leaves everyone with more questions than we had prior to you posting it. You don't want to answer the same question every day? Make a post/update on where your heads at and you'd be surprised how many people will stop asking you if they can read it. You don't want people "reading into shit"? Then maybe make your message clear and less vague. "You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done?" That's a Straw Man Fallacy that was neither brought up nor disputed and has nothing to do with the original comment which was more or less just requesting to be informed. What you've posted just now is more information than I've seen posted prior and I don't get why you felt the need to get mad/angry about it nor swear but you do you and thanks for update
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Post by Bupu on Nov 9, 2021 18:26:15 GMT -5
The answer is "we don't know", we have not decided that will be the final thing we do. Right now we have other concerns like fixing the entire database and rebalancing everything one thing at a time to make sure it is right . If you do not like that answer "do not come back", right now I am stressed, my plate is full and answering the same god damn question every day makes me want to throw in the towel and never bring Imperium up again. Yes we have made progress but we are not there yet and have no definitive answer either way on a wipe. My answer there was meant as a check back later nothing more. You all need to stop reading into shit. You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done? No to both. If and when we decide which way to go we will let everyone know. Until that time it is a option that we can and will choose if we feel it is needed. That's LITERALLY what I was asking for. Your original statement addressed and answered nothing and leaves everyone with more questions than we had prior to you posting it. You don't want to answer the same question every day? Make a post/update on where your heads at and you'd be surprised how many people will stop asking you if they can read it. You don't want people "reading into shit"? Then maybe make your message clear and less vague. "You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done?" That's a Straw Man Fallacy that was neither brought up nor disputed and has nothing to do with the original comment which was more or less just requesting to be informed. What you've posted just now is more information than I've seen posted prior and I don't get why you felt the need to get mad/angry about it nor swear but you do you and thanks for update If you were on discord you would have more information.
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Post by Allik on Nov 9, 2021 22:11:31 GMT -5
The answer is "we don't know", we have not decided that will be the final thing we do. Right now we have other concerns like fixing the entire database and rebalancing everything one thing at a time to make sure it is right . If you do not like that answer "do not come back", right now I am stressed, my plate is full and answering the same god damn question every day makes me want to throw in the towel and never bring Imperium up again. Yes we have made progress but we are not there yet and have no definitive answer either way on a wipe. My answer there was meant as a check back later nothing more. You all need to stop reading into shit. You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done? No to both. If and when we decide which way to go we will let everyone know. Until that time it is a option that we can and will choose if we feel it is needed. That's LITERALLY what I was asking for. Your original statement addressed and answered nothing and leaves everyone with more questions than we had prior to you posting it. You don't want to answer the same question every day? Make a post/update on where your heads at and you'd be surprised how many people will stop asking you if they can read it. You don't want people "reading into shit"? Then maybe make your message clear and less vague. "You think we as the owners who have put in 7 years playing want to throw out our characters?, you think we want to rebalance all the work we have done?" That's a Straw Man Fallacy that was neither brought up nor disputed and has nothing to do with the original comment which was more or less just requesting to be informed. What you've posted just now is more information than I've seen posted prior and I don't get why you felt the need to get mad/angry about it nor swear but you do you and thanks for update I'm sure being a complete and utter tool will make them super forthcoming with info. Additionally, your sparkling personality has probably reinvigorated their desire to provide you with an amazing experience. Now, what to do with your full-throttle douchebaggery seeing as this pesky problem has been solved? I guess you could scream at the homeless to figure their lives out. Maybe shame some students who are struggling in math? I mean, c'mon! You're obviously a top mind possessing fantastic interpersonal skills! /s In all honesty though... re-read your comments and consider your tone. Do you think those comments are at all helpful? Even though you got info, do you think it was a positive experience for the people/person who decide the server's fate? Do you think a free service is beholden to you? Have you ever been in an emergency/crunch time situation - if so, do you not understand why being an obnoxious ass made Bupu "mad/angry" and "swear"? C'mon, DrD... you have to realize these are people who are ignoring their personal lives (children, friends, etc.) to clean up a huge mess for us. All so that you can enjoy playing a custom version of an emulated game that was released in 1999... that's a pretty big IRL sacrifice for you to click auto-attack and wait to loot... Patience, understanding, and empathy go a long way; because, at the end of the day Bupu and Sturm owe you nothing.
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Post by godoeq on Nov 10, 2021 9:07:14 GMT -5
We are going to be down a while yet, this time we will have the source changes making Imperium more easily upgradeable. We hope you will all join us on Imperium EQ the next adventure. Cute,,,,, Think you could be a little less vague and stop avoiding the question your members are actually concerned with and keep asking? Are you wiping the characters or not? I feel you are being very disingenuous while trying to string your members along with ignorance and uncertainty. How about showing your users some respect by giving them a clear and concise statement of your intent so we can make our choices now to continue to support you, move on, or at least be prepared for what's available should we continue to stay/care? It's going to be very insulting, and I'm sure you'll lose all your members, if you continue to string us along without a clear statement of your intentions while we continue to wait only to find out we were waiting for nothing. I just checked the boards again, and I don't care if I am admonished or not. I cannot let this go without a response. drdolittle: YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF!!!! You ungrateful, entitled, internet troll ... Bupu, and Sturm owe you NOTHING! This is a free service. That is unless you are paying them a monthly subscription which I STRONGLY suspect you are not. So since we know buttheads belong in a toilet. Do yourself a favor ... Go stick your head in a toilet bowl, flush, and give yourself a swirly. That is what we used to do to buttheads like you back in the day. -GoDO
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Post by sjana2 on Nov 10, 2021 15:15:09 GMT -5
Inside voice.
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